我在澳大利亚有一个朋友，他人很好，他死于艾滋病。他用了一点Deca和生长激素来保持状态或者其他。当他去看医生时发现自己得了爱滋病，医生告诉他是因为他用了那些药物所以没有发现自己得了病，药物使他生命延长了七年。许多类固醇是开处方开出来的，当他们使用正确的剂量时，他们没事。你可以过量服用任何东西，都会有副作用。你可以滥用阿司匹林，你可以滥用任何处方，产生世界上所有的副作用。如果你正确地使用，你就不会有问题。只是因为用得过量。人们认为200毫克效果不错，400毫克效果效果会好两倍，嘿，那我就用600毫克，那效果会好叁倍。他们持续这样做，不停地这样做，直到身体无法承受。通常有更多的非药物的因素。

　　Some bodybuilders have said that they overdosed on Advil or aspirin? What do you think?

　　记者：一些健美运动员说他们Advil或aspirin服用过量?你有什么看法?

　　Anything is possible. If somebody tells you something, I guess we can take them at their word for it. Sure, we can sit there and say 'Well, it's bullshit, he did these things, his problems are because of his drug use', but we don't know that. We don't have proof. Who are we to say? It's just all speculation. Because it makes your ego feel better than you can put him down for that. People like to tear people down instead of just saying if that's what he says, then that is what it is.

　　李：任何事情都是可能的。如果有人告诉你什么事情，我想我们可以相信他说的是真的。当然我们可以坐在那?说，「狗屎，他做了那些事情，他的问题是因为用药」，但是我们不?解情况。我们没有证据。都只是猜测罢了。因为打击他会让你自己感觉更好。人们喜欢打击别人，而不是分析别人说的是不是真的。

　　I have always told the truth about the amounts of drugs I've taken. People have come back in my face, laughed at me, and called me a liar. Listen, I've got no reason to lie. These are the amounts I taking, and this is what I am taking. I don't give a shit if you know. I have always been honest about it from day one. I did some Tom Platz videos, they didn't cover my face up, I didn't give a shit if people see who I am, and know what I do. If you are going to take steroids, then do it safely. You don't need to take these stupid amounts that people say to take. I don't think I've ever spent over $1,500 once for drugs for a contest.

　　我经常一五一十地告诉别人我用药的剂量。人们反过来笑我，说我是个骗子。听好了，我没有任何理由去撒谎。这就是我用的剂量，这就是我现在用的药。你知道与否我根本不屑一顾。我从第一天开始就对这个问题很坦诚。我参与拍摄一些Tom Platz的视频，也没有让他们在视频?把我的脸遮住。我根本不在意人们看到我是谁，知道我做什么。如果你要使用类固醇，那就安全地用。你不需要服用别人说的那么愚蠢的大剂量。我从没有为比赛花过多于1500美圆在药物上。

　　But some bodybuilders have said they spent between $5,000 - $7,000 for a show?

　　记者：但有些健美运动员说他们花5000到7000美圆来?备比赛。

　　When I get ready for a show, I spend more money on steak and fish and other foods than I do on drugs. And then when it comes to preparation, I spend more on tanning, and getting stuff ready for the contest than you think. If I diet for 12 weeks, I spend a lot more on foods than drugs easily. The emphasis on drugs always makes me laugh. If a take 1,000 mg of this or 30cc of that, I will tell you. There are no secrets. I don't care if you know. Sometimes the rumors are more exciting than the truth.

　　李：当我决定打比赛时，我花在牛肉和鱼肉上的钱比我花在药物上的钱多。在备赛期间，我花在晒黑，和?备其他东西上的钱比你想的要多。如果我节食12 周，我花在食物上的钱很容易比药物多很多。只拿药物说事的言论常常让我发笑。如果我用了1000毫克这个或者30cc那个我肯定会告诉你。没有任何不能说的秘密。我不介意让你知道。有时候谣言比真相更让人兴奋。

　　So what are you taking for contest preperation?

　　记者：既然如此，你现在备赛在服用什么?

　　Clenbuterol, Stanozolol every second day and Nolvadex. And that's it. It is the same thing I used back in 1997, and you can verify that with Flex Wheeler. Flex at that time was asking me how did I get in shape and I told him that this is all that I used, and it worked. I have got ready for other shows with other things, I've used growth before, but when I used it, I didn't notice a big difference. I think it is a waste of time, as I am not better when I used it as to when I didn't use it. Like I said, you can use drugs, and get prescription steroids, and use too many, and one is going to contradict another. It's better to just do the basics. I remember Cathy came to the bathroom one day, and I showed her what I was using, and she said 'I know women that use more than you do'.

　　李：Clenbuterol,Stanozolol 两天一次，还有Nolvadex。就这些。跟我在1997年用的一样，你可以找来Flex Wheeler来证实。Flex那时候问我如何进入状态，我告诉他那就是我用的所有的药，并且产生了效果。我打其他比赛的时候用过别的东西，我以前用过生长激素，但我用它的时候，我没感觉到很大的不同。我觉得那是浪费时间，因为我用它的时候并没有比不用的时候好。像我所说，你可以用很多药物，得到处方类固醇，勐用，然后一种药会抵消另一种药的作用。最好只用基本的。我记得Cathy一天到我的洗手间，我给她看我用的药，她说「我知道有些女的用得都比你多」。